{"id":378,"date":"2009-10-25T16:21:56","date_gmt":"2009-10-25T03:21:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.dextermods.co.nz\/?p=378"},"modified":"2009-11-24T16:26:00","modified_gmt":"2009-11-24T03:26:00","slug":"how-not-to-negotiate-auction-247758229","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dextermods.co.nz\/?p=378","title":{"rendered":"How not to negotiate&#8230; auction #247758229"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Sometimes trades just go bad and when they do there is usually a small window of opportunity to fix them. Both the buyer and the seller have to be reasonable and see things from the other guys perspective and work together to seek a solution that works for both parties.<\/p>\n<p>I recently had a huge spring clean and sold an awful lot of stuff on my Trademe auctions. All was going well until James bought a a Squier off me to mod into something better.<\/p>\n<p>Living where I do I have extra costs if buyers want something couriered or sent urgently. I have an arrangement with my RD man to do special runs up to Tuakau Post Shop for me that saves me 120km two hour return drive but costs me $20. My payment instructions clearly point out that extra costs are involved if the buyer specifies urgent delivery.<\/p>\n<p>James specified that he did want this, in fact he wanted the guitar overnight.<\/p>\n<p>The RD man had been and gone on Friday morning by the time I got James&#8217; email so I got in the car and headed up to town. Overnight courier was quoted at $64. Now I know that it&#8217;s harder to seek more postage than to refund so I went with the 1 &#8211; 3 day Track and Trace. Postage cost $22 and 2 rolls of gaffer tape to secure the hardcase cost $4 from the $2 in Pukekohe. Total post and packing costs comes to $26. Had I made the RD man trip I&#8217;d have got an invoice for a further $20 so my P&amp;P estimate of $45 was close enough.<\/p>\n<p>By the time I got home I had another email from James. He wanted to know the track and trace number so he could pick the guitar up from the depot in the morning. I emailed him the Track and Trace number and pointed out that I had gone the extra mile to get the guitar away as fast as possible.<\/p>\n<p>Monday rolls around and I have another email from James. He wants to know why I didn&#8217;t use overnight courier. I remind him that the auction stated NZ Post Track and Trace and tell him overnight courier for the item was considerably more than he had paid. I told him I work out postage and packing on a worst case scenario and refund the difference once the goods have been confirmed as arrived.<\/p>\n<p>Tuesday and James has his guitar. He sees the postage was only $22 and demands a refund of $23.<\/p>\n<p>I point out that he has omitted to allow for packing costs of $4 and ask that he makes this allowance before we settle on a refund figure.<\/p>\n<p>James refuses to accept the packing tape as a legitimate part of the P&amp;P cost and once more demands a refund of $23 but this time he adds the closing line &#8220;I expect you to stop wasting my time and refund my $23.00 for postage as any  thing less is tantamount to theft and as much as I really can not be bothered I  will take appropriate action which if nothing else will waste your time also.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I take the opportunity to once more remind James of the packing cost which he deems to be theft and advise him that there is an inherent problem with a negotiating style that involves one party holding a gun to the other guys head and saying &#8216;do what I say or else&#8217; and that is you are left with too few options if the other guy calls you on your threat.<\/p>\n<p>James reply is predictable, personal abuse and foul language &#8220;You appear to be a very petty and small minded twit, take your money and fuck  off.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So I gracefully accept his kind invitation.<\/p>\n<p>James complains to Trademe about the overcharging, I reply to them advising that James was made aware of the extra costs and refused to acknowledge the packing tape costs and they seem OK with that.<\/p>\n<p>James gives negative feedback. I do the same.<\/p>\n<p>End result, James pulled the trigger, lost a $19 postage refund and hopefully learned a valuable lesson about negotiations.<\/p>\n<p>Negotiating while holding a gun to the other guys head is just dumb. When he refuses to back down all you are left with is a bloody mess.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sometimes trades just go bad and when they do there is usually a small window of opportunity to fix them. Both the buyer and the seller have to be reasonable and see things from the other guys perspective and work together to seek a solution that works for both parties.<\/p>\n<p>I recently had a huge <\/p>\n<p>Continue reading <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dextermods.co.nz\/?p=378\">How not to negotiate&#8230; auction #247758229<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-378","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blog","odd"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1OFwy-66","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.dextermods.co.nz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/378","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.dextermods.co.nz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.dextermods.co.nz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.dextermods.co.nz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.dextermods.co.nz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=378"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.dextermods.co.nz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/378\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.dextermods.co.nz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=378"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.dextermods.co.nz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=378"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.dextermods.co.nz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=378"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}